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    Rush Limbaugh erklaert Amerika das Wort Schadenfreude und kommentiert einen Ansatz von Sinneswandel in Europa.

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    Schadenfreudians Realizing Bush Was Right

    February 17, 2005


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    It's happening in Europe. It's international now. From the International Herald Tribune, story by Richard Bernstein, headline: "Europa: Is it possible that Bush wasn't entirely wrong?" Well-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l... We had a couple weeks ago a Chicago Tribune columnist's take on this, "Is it possible we were wrong and Bush was right about Iraq?" And he got pummeled by his left-wing kook buddies so he had to write a mea culpa, sort of, in the next column. Then yesterday it was Kurt Andersen at New York Magazine, raising the same question. Today it's international. "Probably it's a bit too much to say--" begins this piece by Bernstein, "--on the eve of President Bush's fence-mending trip to Europe next week, that a specter is haunting Europe, but let's say it anyway: A specter is haunting Europe and it is the possibility, following the elections in Iraq, that perhaps Bush is less of a dangerous bungler than so many Europeans previously believed him to be. Why a specter? Because, let's face it, even though Europeans were gracious enough not to gloat during the darkest days of the Iraqi conflict, you could almost smell the schadenfreude here over the American plight."

    Well, if schadenfreude isn't gloating what the hell is it? You know what schadenfreude is? I'll tell you where I first learned the word. (interruption) You don't know what it means? I've explained it Mr. Snerdley on this program in recent weeks, where have you been? Now, schadenfreude, you don't forget that. It's like antidisestablishmentarianism, who forgets that word once they ever hear it? I bet I know a whole bunch of words you've never forgotten. But nevertheless, schadenfreude, where I first came across this word, Mr. Buckley, Mr. Buckley did a blurb for my first book in which after reading the book he expressed the fact that he felt a little schadenfreude for the left after they would read the book. Schadenfreude is taking pleasure in the misery of others. And so this guy says you could almost smell the schadenfreude in Europe over the American plight.


    Schadenfreude is very, very close to gloating, and, by the way, I think there was a lot of European gloating over there. Nevertheless, Mr. Bernstein writes, "Certainly there has been no seismic alteration of the European view. Yet there are at least some strong anecdotal signs that Europeans are struggling with the difficult proposition that there might even be in the Bush doctrine of messianic democracy a dollop of what the other President Bush famously called 'the vision thing.'" Translation: This guy may have good vision; we better pay attention. "Here in Berlin over the past couple of weeks, for example, a spirited debate has taken place at the German daily Der Tagesspiegel, the issue of which was just how far to go in acknowledging that some good might now be coming out of the Bush foreign policy. According to Christoph Marschall, the editorial page editor of the paper, there was little opposition on the part of the assembled staff to a comment he wrote before the election, to the effect that there was going to be something inspiring about Iraqis going to the polls." There was no controversy. "But after the election, when the paper's Washington correspondent suggested on Page 1 that maybe, after all, Bush sniffed out a truth about the 'axis of evil,' the staff strenuously objected. 'The idea that Bush might actually have been right - that was a little much for our staff,' Marschall said... 'Most Europeans think that improvements in the Middle East - elections in Afghanistan, Palestine and Iraq - have come about because Bush is lucky, that it was because of chance.'" But who cares. They're still speculating, they still know the truth, and we could have predicted this. In fact, the left, if you listen to them, they brought down the Soviet Union.

    If you listen to certain Democrats, they had a role in it, and I guarantee you (interruption) well, that doesn't matter, they had no role. But they use the word "we." It's like Jon Stewart had a op-ed piece somewhere recently talking about the Iraq elections. He said we did it, now let's get out of there and of course as Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online, what is this "we," kemosabe? You had nothing to do with it! All you people on the left did was try to avoid it and work against it, make it impossible for it to happen. Now all these people who had their schadenfreude are beginning to say wait a minute, wait a minute, maybe it's a good thing, and Bush just lucked out, Bush just lucked out, happened to be in the right place at the right time. Sort of like Clinton didn't luck out when 9/11 happened. Remember, the Democrats were all upset that 9/11 did not happen when Clinton was president because that kind of event, in their warped thinking, offered Bush an opportunity for greatness that was denied Bill Clinton. I kid you not. That's how warped these people are. Nevertheless Europe now beginning to think, uh-oh, Bush may have been right. Little teeny, tiny steps but they're taking them.

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    Rush Limbaugh erklaert Amerika das Wort Schadenfreude und kommentiert einen Ansatz von Sinneswandel in Europa.
    OMG!
    Das sind ja gleich 2 Dinge, die jemand wie Rush besser unterlassen sollte. :P

    Später mehr zum Inhalt.
    "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

    "If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it." Thomas Jefferson

    "Terrorismus ist der Krieg der Armen, Krieg ist der Terrorismus der Reichen." Sir Peter Ustinov

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    Zitat Zitat von Micham
    Rush Limbaugh erklaert Amerika das Wort Schadenfreude und kommentiert einen Ansatz von Sinneswandel in Europa.

    Quelle fuer Siran: Rushlimbaugh.com





    Schadenfreudians Realizing Bush Was Right

    February 17, 2005


    BEGIN TRANSCRIPT



    It's happening in Europe. It's international now. From the International Herald Tribune, story by Richard Bernstein, headline: "Europa: Is it possible that Bush wasn't entirely wrong?" Well-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l... We had a couple weeks ago a Chicago Tribune columnist's take on this, "Is it possible we were wrong and Bush was right about Iraq?" And he got pummeled by his left-wing kook buddies so he had to write a mea culpa, sort of, in the next column. Then yesterday it was Kurt Andersen at New York Magazine, raising the same question. Today it's international. "Probably it's a bit too much to say--" begins this piece by Bernstein, "--on the eve of President Bush's fence-mending trip to Europe next week, that a specter is haunting Europe, but let's say it anyway: A specter is haunting Europe and it is the possibility, following the elections in Iraq, that perhaps Bush is less of a dangerous bungler than so many Europeans previously believed him to be. Why a specter? Because, let's face it, even though Europeans were gracious enough not to gloat during the darkest days of the Iraqi conflict, you could almost smell the schadenfreude here over the American plight."

    Well, if schadenfreude isn't gloating what the hell is it? You know what schadenfreude is? I'll tell you where I first learned the word. (interruption) You don't know what it means? I've explained it Mr. Snerdley on this program in recent weeks, where have you been? Now, schadenfreude, you don't forget that. It's like antidisestablishmentarianism, who forgets that word once they ever hear it? I bet I know a whole bunch of words you've never forgotten. But nevertheless, schadenfreude, where I first came across this word, Mr. Buckley, Mr. Buckley did a blurb for my first book in which after reading the book he expressed the fact that he felt a little schadenfreude for the left after they would read the book. Schadenfreude is taking pleasure in the misery of others. And so this guy says you could almost smell the schadenfreude in Europe over the American plight.


    Schadenfreude is very, very close to gloating, and, by the way, I think there was a lot of European gloating over there. Nevertheless, Mr. Bernstein writes, "Certainly there has been no seismic alteration of the European view. Yet there are at least some strong anecdotal signs that Europeans are struggling with the difficult proposition that there might even be in the Bush doctrine of messianic democracy a dollop of what the other President Bush famously called 'the vision thing.'" Translation: This guy may have good vision; we better pay attention. "Here in Berlin over the past couple of weeks, for example, a spirited debate has taken place at the German daily Der Tagesspiegel, the issue of which was just how far to go in acknowledging that some good might now be coming out of the Bush foreign policy. According to Christoph Marschall, the editorial page editor of the paper, there was little opposition on the part of the assembled staff to a comment he wrote before the election, to the effect that there was going to be something inspiring about Iraqis going to the polls." There was no controversy. "But after the election, when the paper's Washington correspondent suggested on Page 1 that maybe, after all, Bush sniffed out a truth about the 'axis of evil,' the staff strenuously objected. 'The idea that Bush might actually have been right - that was a little much for our staff,' Marschall said... 'Most Europeans think that improvements in the Middle East - elections in Afghanistan, Palestine and Iraq - have come about because Bush is lucky, that it was because of chance.'" But who cares. They're still speculating, they still know the truth, and we could have predicted this. In fact, the left, if you listen to them, they brought down the Soviet Union.

    If you listen to certain Democrats, they had a role in it, and I guarantee you (interruption) well, that doesn't matter, they had no role. But they use the word "we." It's like Jon Stewart had a op-ed piece somewhere recently talking about the Iraq elections. He said we did it, now let's get out of there and of course as Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online, what is this "we," kemosabe? You had nothing to do with it! All you people on the left did was try to avoid it and work against it, make it impossible for it to happen. Now all these people who had their schadenfreude are beginning to say wait a minute, wait a minute, maybe it's a good thing, and Bush just lucked out, Bush just lucked out, happened to be in the right place at the right time. Sort of like Clinton didn't luck out when 9/11 happened. Remember, the Democrats were all upset that 9/11 did not happen when Clinton was president because that kind of event, in their warped thinking, offered Bush an opportunity for greatness that was denied Bill Clinton. I kid you not. That's how warped these people are. Nevertheless Europe now beginning to think, uh-oh, Bush may have been right. Little teeny, tiny steps but they're taking them.
    haettste wohl gerne?

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    Ja, Rush, es stimmt:
    Europa macht sich Gedanken, wie die Wahlen im Irak die dortige Zulkunft beeinflussen könnten; möglicherweise auch positiv.
    Für diese Erkenntnis bemüht er eine ganz Zeitung, nur um im gleichen Atemzug gegen die 'Linken' zu wüten (btw. Jon Stewart macht eine Comedy-Sendung, keinen Polittalk). Aber so leid es mir für Rush tut, die 'Linken' haben nie behauptet, für den Zusammenbruch der UDSSR verantwortlich zu sein, ebensowenig hätten sie sich den Anschlag vom 11.9. für die Zeit unter Clinton gewünscht - zwei Unterstellungen (eine davon äußerst schwerwiegend), die beide nicht wahr sind. Aber Hauptsache gestänkert und viele Worte für nichts verschwendet.

    Denn:
    Wenn es Europa (der böse pazifistische Kriegsgegner) schaftt an Bushs Vorgehen und Taten einen Ansatz von Gutem zu entdecken, dann sollte es für Rush umgekehrt doch auch möglich sein, gewisse Einwände von 'linker' Seite ernstzunehmen und nicht vorschnell als falsch abzutun, oder?
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    "Terrorismus ist der Krieg der Armen, Krieg ist der Terrorismus der Reichen." Sir Peter Ustinov

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    Leider nur kurz.

    Zitat Zitat von Rorschach
    ebensowenig hätten sie sich den Anschlag vom 11.9. für die Zeit unter Clinton gewünscht
    Da vertust du dich gewaltig. Ich erinnere mich noch sehr genau, wie das damals kurz nach dem Anschlag ablief. Natuerlich haben es die wenigsten direkt gesagt (obwohl es da auch so einige gab), aber ihr Bedauern war SEHR deutlich rauszuhoeren. Clinton selbst hat einige derartige Anspielungen gemacht, die ich hoffentlich irgendwo finden werde.

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    Dann müßte es doch einige freudige Statements von Demokraten aus dem Jahr 1993 geben, als Reaktion auf den ersten Anschlag aufs WTC.....
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    "If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it." Thomas Jefferson

    "Terrorismus ist der Krieg der Armen, Krieg ist der Terrorismus der Reichen." Sir Peter Ustinov

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    Sorry, das verstehe ich jetzt nicht.

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    Wenn Demokraten sich gewünscht haben sollen (laut Rush), daß 9/11 während Clintons Präsidentschaft passiert wäre, dann müßte diese Demokraten doch der Anschlag von 1993 (als Clinton Präsident war) schon einmal zu entsprechenden Äußerungen veranlasst haben?
    "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

    "If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it." Thomas Jefferson

    "Terrorismus ist der Krieg der Armen, Krieg ist der Terrorismus der Reichen." Sir Peter Ustinov

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    Verstehe ich immer noch nicht.

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    Zitat Zitat von Micham
    Da vertust du dich gewaltig. Ich erinnere mich noch sehr genau, wie das damals kurz nach dem Anschlag ablief. Natuerlich haben es die wenigsten direkt gesagt (obwohl es da auch so einige gab), aber ihr Bedauern war SEHR deutlich rauszuhoeren. Clinton selbst hat einige derartige Anspielungen gemacht, die ich hoffentlich irgendwo finden werde.
    Gab es solche Äußerungen wirklich?

    Wenn ja, was ist dann die Meinung dieser Demokraten zu dem Anschlag von 1993 gewesen?
    "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

    "If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it." Thomas Jefferson

    "Terrorismus ist der Krieg der Armen, Krieg ist der Terrorismus der Reichen." Sir Peter Ustinov

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